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The Money School Podcast shares the secrets of the wealthy, so you learn how money really works and take back control of your life!

You'll hear the inside story of wealthy entrepreneurs and investors... breaking down how they got started, how they think about money, how they put money to work for them, and how you can change your life simply by doing ONE thing differently with the money you already have.

Through the podcast, you'll become your own bank - mastering how money really works - so you can use it to gain the upper hand and take command of your finances. After all, building wealth isn't about resources, it's about being resourceful. 

Hosted by Chris Naugle, former pro snowboarder turned real estate investor, serial entrepreneur, and money mentor, this podcast has one mission - to show you how money really works so you can reclaim control of your life!

Mar 17, 2022

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again - anyone who believes that this market will keep going up is either reckless or downright delusional. 


We’re staring down the barrel of the next Great Depression, and what’s coming won’t be pretty, but there are still many investors exposing themselves to unnecessary risk. 


How do you increase your chance of success in this knife edge market? How do we take off the rose-tinted glasses and see the market for what it is? 


In this episode, I’m joined by entrepreneur, fellow investor and founder of Systemate, John Cochran. We talk about the tool he’s created to help people build opportunity under any market conditions.

Three Things You’ll Learn In This Episode 


How John Cochran solved a business key problem by leaning on systems
Most investors accept the fact that bad deals and losing money comes with the territory. How did John Cochran build a software to increase his probability of success?


Why you need to be both a marketing and a follow up beast
How much follow up do you need before a lead turns into a source of business? 


The problematic thinking that will get many investors in trouble very soon
This market has already hit its peak, but why are so many people still insisting that there’s still more upside?



Guest Bio


John Cochran is an entrepreneur, investor and the founder of real estate technology platform Systemate. He started off his career doing a lot of Rehabbing, then he bought a HUD House for $18.47 and got hooked on Wholesaling homes for fat profits. 


John is also the founder of one of the fastest growing Real Estate Brokerages in the country "Invest Dayton". His Brokerage is very unique. He has developed a system called Buyers on Fire which automated the entire process of search for a buyer of a property. He is also the founder of The King of Systems, Buyers on Fire and HUD Wholesaling. 


For more information and to get a free demo of Systemate, visit